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<div>Hey Stefan, </div>
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<div>Thanks so much for the resource. There is so much information here. Very well documented. It is a lot for me to take on. I have it saved a reference so I can refer to. </div>
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<div>thank you for showing me this,</div>
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<div>From: Stefan Buschmann <s_buschmann@gmx.de> </div>
<div>Date: 28/7/18 8:15 pm (GMT+10:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [CMake] Beginners Guide to Cmake and Modern Cmake </div>
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you may also have a look at our cmake template "cmake-init", which we have been developing for several years now, based on modern CMake.<br>
It may seem a bit overwhelming at first, but we tried to put in many best practices and support everything from building, to testing, documentation,<br>
up to packaging. We developed it for use in our computer graphics middleware, which has pretty much the same dependencies you have (glm, glfw, opengl).<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cginternals/cmake-init">https://github.com/cginternals/cmake-init</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cginternals/glbinding">https://github.com/cginternals/glbinding</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/cginternals/globjects">https://github.com/cginternals/globjects</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28.07.2018 10:54, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:spacey_01@outlook.com">
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<div>Hey Eric,</div>
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<div>Yes you are correct, the example software is not built with Cmake but i would like to add Cmake to it. Id like it crossplatform and Cmake seems like the best way. </div>
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<div>As said, im really new to Cmake, but ill try to explain with the best of my knowledge. Some of the projects dependency list does have Cmake but some doesn't.</div>
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<div>Glfw - Cmake is included but only with the build out of source download </div>
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<div>Glm - seems to have Cmake package support</div>
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<div>Imgui - no Cmake but is self contained and no external libraries </div>
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<div>Stb - no Cmake but is header only.</div>
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<div>OpenGl - no Cmake source only, i think its just a list of bindings and is written in C </div>
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<div>Secondly, thank you for the list of resources. I am particularly interested in Craig Scotts book. Judging from the sample book Craig provides on his webpage I think it is well written. Looking forward to reading the full text. </div>
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<div>Thirdly, sorry I was intermittently writting the reply. I mean to say the process of 'how to' provide Cmake package support. :)</div>
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<div>Lastly, I agree totally, it is a time consuming job to make good tutorial content, but doesnt any good profession consume time. It would be a benefit to the community and beginners like myself who want to take on Cmake but without the struggle of trawling
the whole internet and not finding much learning material that is practical. Most of the tutorial style content is just "hello Cmake" styled content. Some explain the same intro Cmake content in minutes as others spend hours. TT ... ;) </div>
<div>It would just be great to see some up to date tutorials on cmake.org landing page. Would make the learning process smoother.</div>
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<div>Thanks so much for the reply Eric,</div>
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<div>Date: 28/7/18 5:44 pm (GMT+10:00) </div>
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<div>Hey Andreas,</div>
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<div> thanks for your comments. Yes I too have exhausted the resources you have mentioned here. The concepts make sense and I see the intended point but for a beginner its hard to grasp on how to implement and given the type of project application of cmake's
is diverse (easy to complex). </div>
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<div>Im in need of some clear cut examples of modern cmake for it to really sink in (easy to complex). </div>
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<div>I feel you have to be a veteran in cmake to understand how to implement the new way and overcome the problems of dependencies not providing modern transitive packages and the struggle of not just calling find_package.. etc. Instead we have to make that
transition our selves in some cases. This is the hard part.</div>
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<div>AIFAIK, your example software does not seem to be built with CMake so there is no transition to make for you.</div>
<div>Just use the "Modern way" from the ground up.</div>
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<div>Concerning documentation, tutorial, webinar etc...</div>
<div>More and more resource are coming up:</div>
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<div>1) The various slide/presentation already mentionned</div>
<div>2) The reference documentation (<a href="https://cmake.org/documentation/">https://cmake.org/documentation/</a>) which has improved a lot after the switch to sphinx </div>
<div>3) The kitware training of course: <a href="https://training.kitware.fr">https://training.kitware.fr</a></div>
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<div> - The book recently announced by Craig Scott: <a href="https://crascit.com/professional-cmake/">
https://crascit.com/professional-cmake/</a></div>
<div> - A forthcoming cookbook: <a href="https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/cmake-cookbook">https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/cmake-cookbook</a></div>
<div>and probably many other to come.</div>
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<div>However if we are into making libraries it would be a benefit to know the process of cmake packages but at the advantage of being the maker and knowing the dependency path if the library does borrow. </div>
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<div>I bet (but I did not read it) the book from Craig could help you with that, but I'm sure he may answer himself.</div>
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<div>Now I am curious of what you mean by "it would be a benefit to know **<span style="font-size:small; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); float:none; display:inline">the process of cmake packages**" ?</span></div>
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<div>It be great to see <a href="http://cmake.org" target="_blank">cmake.org</a> revamping the webinars for the aforementioned.</div>
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<div>All that said I agree the current are oldish and would benefit an upgrade :-)</div>
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<div>However from my perspective writing good doc, tutorial, webinar etc... is very time-consuming so may be worth buying some for that and give some rewards to people investing in it.</div>
<div>This is my own opinion though :-)</div>
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