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      Also, the design goal of ninja was to build things "as fast as
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      Although I can't totally disagree with Loadens comment to keep it
      simple and your comment that the speed is reasonable now. <br>
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      Op 24-9-2012 18:06, Wouter van Kleunen schreef:<br>
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      No, ninja is not really slow. Only when the filesystem caches are
      cold, a no-op build does take a considerable time. So yeah, the
      performance difference will not be very big when the caches are
      hot.
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      Wouter
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      Op 24-9-2012 11:17, Peter K&uuml;mmel schreef:
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      <blockquote type="cite">On 24.09.2012 11:04, Nils Gladitz wrote:
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        <blockquote type="cite">When I tried with one of my larger
          projects the first no-op build after
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          a full build took something between 20 and 30 seconds but
          no-op builds
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          after that were below a second.
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          I'm not really sure what would cause this (I guess disk or
          filesystem
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          caching?).
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        Yes, ninja needs to read a lot of files to check dependencies.
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          Nils
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          On 09/24/2012 10:42 AM, Peter K&uuml;mmel wrote:
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          <blockquote type="cite">On 23.09.2012 15:04, Wouter van
            Kleunen wrote:
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              I had the following idea to speed up the building even
              more, if a tool
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              can be build in ninja to list all files that need to be
              stat when
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              building&nbsp; a project. These files can be monitored by
              qtcreator and later
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              be provided as input again to ninja. So my idea works as
              follows:
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              1. Build project using cmake + ninja
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              2. Get file list of all dependencies by using ninja
              (something like
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              ninja -t deplist).
              <br>
              3. Monitor the files using qt creator + qfilesystemwatcher
              <br>
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              When the user requests a rebuild:
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              4. Execute a ninja build command + provide the list of
              changed files.
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              This way ninja won't have to stat any file.
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              5. Ninja builds
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              Is this feasible ?
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            I assume Qt Creator does it this way for qbs.
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            But for ninja this would be too much work.
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            You think even ninja is too slow?
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            Peter
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